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  From:  WannaFly1   11/14/2001 9:46 am  
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Who gave the law about divorce that Jesus revoked. Cause Jesus said Moses did, and Moses said God did. Now if God did, then that means God is partial to times people culture etc., and not always righteous and just. If Moses did, then that means that the Bible is not totally inspired. How does one explain this? 
  
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  From:  bernie@nationwide.net (A20EEWWSFMZ1)    11/14/2001 10:07 am  
To:  WannaFly1   (2 of 10)  
 
  259.2 in reply to 259.1  
 
English is too complex. Can you diagram your question of not pack it so tight?

Thanks
 
  
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  From:  David (DavidABrown)    11/14/2001 10:16 am  
To:  WannaFly1   (3 of 10)  
 
  259.3 in reply to 259.1  
 
The Bible says that God gave the original Law not to get Divorced. The Bible-Jesus also says that God gave the new Law through Moses Because of the Hardness of peoples heart but that God has always intended for Marriage to be to one person and to be lasting.

 

Mark 10:2-9

And the Pharisees came to Him (Jesus), and asked Him, Is it lawful for a man to put away his wife? tempting (testing) Him. And He answered and said unto them, What did Moses command you? and they said, Moses suffered to write a bill of divorcement and to put her away. 

And Jesus answered and said unto them, For the Hardness of your heart he wrote you this precept. But from the beginning of the Creation, God made them Male and female. For this cause shall a man leave his father and mother, and cleave to his wife; and they twain (two) shall be one flesh: so then they are no more twain, but one flesh {in their children}. What therefore God hath joined together let not man put asunder.

 

So in a sense God was giving some people what they wanted divorce. Divorce is Not what God wants. If you are ever Unfortunate enough to go through a divorce or to have parents or other family members get divorced then I think you would agree with God that divorce, the Death of a Relationship, is a Terrible event!

 

I gather from you postings that Nothing God does will please you. It looks like you want to condemn God for not wanting divorce and you want to condemn God for allowing something that He doesnt agree with.

 

Marriage is a picture of a relationship between God and people, it is to be intimate, loving, permanent and lasting.

 

Hope you can enter into a lasting relationship with God!



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  From:  WannaFly1   11/14/2001 10:44 am  
To:  David (DavidABrown)    (4 of 10)  
 
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You gather far too quickly my friend. 
And from my postings which equal exactly 2 and both said the same thing this one says. I just posted it in two different threads. 

Lesson #1 Don't judge so quickly. 

Lesson #2 Not all who ask questions are in search of finding fault. Only the stupid ones with nothing better to do. I wouldn't waste my time. Some >>I<< want clarification. Wonder how many other seekers you've attacked like that. 

Lesson #3 And you completely avoided my very question. That never gains my respect. 

Let me rephrase. Why did God allow something that wasn't good? Why didn't he just forbid divorce outright then? For the hardness of their hearts. So He changes His laws based on circumstances. 

My question is why did Moses give the divorce law, and how did God let that into His inspired Word? If your answer is He inspired it, He gave that very law, then my next question is doesn't that mean that what God has required of us morally, changes? 

I'm looking for answers to my questions, not condescending comments. 

 
  
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  From:  David (DavidABrown)    11/14/2001 10:55 am  
To:  WannaFly1   (5 of 10)  
 
  259.5 in reply to 259.4  
 
God allows us people the freedom to do what we want to do. We have the freedom to follow God and we have the freedom to disobey God.

 

Still you are attacking God for giving you freedom. Even freedom that goes against what God wants.

 



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  From:  WannaFly1   11/15/2001 7:22 am  
To:  David (DavidABrown)    (6 of 10)  
 
  259.6 in reply to 259.5  
 
another way of saying you don't know, and you surely can't and/or won't take a minute to think about it. Hey thanks alot, I can't figure why you bothered responding. By the way, you don't know jack about me and my relationship with God. You just can't answer the question and so use this stupid ignorant "if you ask you're not a good christian" copout.  
  
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  From:  David (DavidABrown)    11/15/2001 7:49 am  
To:  WannaFly1   (7 of 10)  
 
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Hi,

 

I apologies, that I read your original posting on the other string as derogatory, in that you indicated that you had little respect for God or for Christians.

 

I do apologies and hope all the best for you!

 

God is not inconsistent in what He did regarding divorce.

 

God Stated in the beginning that he made male and female and that He made them to become one in a commited lifelong relationship.

 

In giving Moses the Laws that are to Govern the nation of Israel, God said that Divorce (something God disapproves of) would Require a written document. God wanted it stated in writing that a person wanted the divorce.

 

God in giving us the freedom to follow and obey Him, has also gave us the freedom to disobey Him and to sin.

 

Every act of sin and rebellion was also the potential for an act of Obedience.

 

God did not create people for the purpose of divorce. God did create people for the purpose of a relationship with God and with one another.

 

God has kept and maintained His original position that He is opposed to Divorce.

 

David



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  From:  WannaFly1   11/15/2001 9:57 am  
To:  David (DavidABrown)    (8 of 10)  
 
  259.8 in reply to 259.7  
 
David I did not indicate any "derogatory" feelings towards God or christians. My concern isn't over divorce. I have been married over a decade now and we have 3 beautiful children, and our marriage covenant has deepened and strengthened much since knowing Christ and continues to do so. Nor do I condone divorce for anyone else. 
Apparently I haven't made my interest here clear, or you are not willing to discuss the drift I am going in. I suspect the latter, and that is fine, I do not force anything on anyone. 

Be well-
 
  
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  From:  BroRhodes (glrhodes45)   11/16/2001 8:01 pm  
To:  WannaFly1 unread  (9 of 10)  
 
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Wannafly, 
Are you a Gorean? 

Bro. R

Gary Rhodes 
Rom. 12:1,2 
Josh. 1:9 
KJBO by faith not scholarship 

 
  
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   From:  123four   11/17/2001 12:44 pm  
To:  WannaFly1 unread  (10 of 10)  
 
  259.10 in reply to 259.8  
 
Wondering what it is that you do not 
understand. The Bible is clear on divorce. 
God hates divorce. People are hurt, children 
are hurt, a family is broken. Understand? 
Now, God does allow divorce because of the 
hardness of men's hearts. His best will 
would be for all to serve Him, and have 
a happy family. However, not everyone chooses 
to do this, so God gave us liberty somewhat 
so that no one suffer great abuse. UNderstand? 
Several years ago, a woman was married to an 
abusive man, both physically and emotionally. 
She did not leave that man. He finally set their 
son on fire with gasoline and he was totally 
disfigured for life. Is that faithfulness on 
the part of the man. AT what point should a 
woman leave her husband? The husband was un 
faithful to the wife. God wanted him to 
be faithful. That woman got ignorant advice from an 
ignorant person who told her to lie still 
when the husband was beating her and God 
would stop him. She did. He dislodged her 
kidney and she lay between life and death for 
weeks. Then he set his own son on fire. God 
made a way for us and we need to listen to 
God on these things, and no one else. 
Could you do a word study of divorce both in 
the Old Testament and the New? 

God often gives words to his servants and does 
so even now. It doesn't matter who the 
word came thru--but we know who gave it? 
If you can't understand that all of the scripture 
is God inspired and that God 's Word is all 
Truth, then wondering if you can talk to a 
born again Christian pastor. A Christian is 
not a Christian if He calls God unjust. He 
couldn't possibly know God and call Him 
unjust or unfair. When there is misunderstanding 
or ignorance of God's Word, it is on our 
part, and not on God's part. Have you asked 
God to reveal His Word to you so that you 
understand it? This is the job of the Holy 
Spirit of God. Ask him, and let Him teach 
you. He is also our teacher. 

Edited 11/17/2001 3:53:52 PM ET by 123FOUR 



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